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TourEdge Bazooka JMax 460cc Carbon Driver Review

The TourEdge Bazooka JMax 460cc Carbon Driver may be the best driver you’ve never heard of. But now you don’t have that excuse anymore, do you?

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Touredge Jmax Draw

When you look at the sole of the club – you can easily see the 20-gram black-colored weight chip labeled “TourEdge.” The flowing esthetic design of the sole will be curved and oriented more towards the heel of the club (for the “Draw” version), or in the back middle of the club (for the “Fade” version). The appearance of either sole design is very sleek and subtle.

To get more varied opinions, I solicited fellow Internet golfers to help me participate in the testing, as well as a few local friends. The golfers ranged from low-handicap local mini-tour players, to mid-handicappers, to higher handicappers looking for easy-to-hit clubs. Their comments are included below mixed in with mine, and I hope they present a thorough look at this driver.

Test Model I personally tested a 9° “Fade Bias” model with a shaft labeled “JMax Reactive Flex 63g, 3.5 Torque, mid kick, Stiff flex, 90-100 speed.” This shaft is available in L, A, R, S, and X flexes to fit most any golfer. The grip provided is a Tour Edge “SofTech+” with a very nice textured area where your left thumb would be placed. I immediately liked this grip, as it looked good, and felt great! I don’t know if the textured area by your left thumb was cosmetic or practical, but it felt good!

Touredge Bazooka Shaft

Esthetics This driver has a very serious and purposeful look to it. The top/crown has a subtle carbon fiber mesh that blends seamlessly (and nearly invisibly) with the black paint. At address, the club sits just a tad closed, but not overly so. The face area is enormous, with one of the largest faces I’ve ever seen in a driver – very wide, very deep, with a slight drop-off towards the toe. My first thoughts are that this driver is impossible to mis-hit, as the face just seemed huge! Another thing I noticed was the headcover design for the Driver and 3-wood – they are made with a length-long zipper rather than a “sock” to protect the shaft. I like this design a lot better than the “sock,” which can get distorted and out of shape over time. The TourEdge headcover design is a lot better in my opinion, and they look sharp.

Touredge Bazooka Face

As with all the TourEdge clubs, the sole appears very cleanly designed, with subtle lines and alternating polished/matte finished surfaces. The Jmax shaft is satin silver in color with painted-on specifications. I’ve always liked this feature, as it allows you to see a shaft and immediately know how it should react in your swing. I do wish that the TourEdge shafts had a more dynamic color scheme – there are many shaft graphics that are a little on the wild looking side, but if I’m paying for an upgraded, high quality shaft, I would like some spiffy graphics, and a very “Tour-oriented” look.

Performance The feeling of carbon drivers is very different than steel (remember those?) or all-titanium drivers. This is one of the reasons I like this driver – the return feeling was that of a solid rebound. The feeling is good, but some testers were not used to the different feeling a carbon-headed driver produces vs. an all-titanium driver. All testers echoed the same comments – the feeling was reassuring, with a very distinct carbon fiber sound at impact, with little to no vibration transmitted to your hands. The sound is a little louder than some people are used to but nowhere near as loud as some modern all-titanium drivers. I love the feeling and sound of carbon/titanium drivers, and this one definitely sounds good to me.

Touredge Bazooka Crown

My low-handicap tester was not comfortable with the stock shaft. However – he has a very high (~118 MPH) swingspeed, which is much more suited to an X-flex shaft. His comments were: “With a more aggressive shaft, I would have been able to unload and most likely have better results.” He did like the feel of the driver overall. Other testers seemed to be very comfortable with the stock TourEdge shaft, and some felt the shaft felt a little soft for a “Stiff” flex. Overall, the shaft felt fine. As the shaft is stamped “Fujikura,” my interest was piqued, as I love Fuji shafts, particularly the “Speeder” lineup. It made me wonder which variation of a Fuji shaft this was.

The driver does seem to hit higher than its indicated 9° loft – even mid handicap testers used to 10.5° (or higher) driver heads were achieving nice ballflight trajectories. Ballflight was fairly high but with no ballooning whatsoever – just straight, penetrating drives that nutted through the wind admirably. None of us could determine if this is due to the driver head itself, the shaft, or the combination of head/shaft. The best aspect of this driver was its forgiveness, as it seems to perform equally well through the entire face area. Even severe mis-hits seem to fly fairly long and straight.

And straight it is! There has been a lot of discussion about the Moments of Inertia (MOI) of various clubs, including putters and drivers. More MOI will result in clubs that are less resistant to twists and deviations, resulting in straighter shots. This is where the JMax Carbon driver excels. It’s very, very straight and forgiving – you must put a VERY bad swing in order to get poor results. Most every tester was achieving straight and long drives. My testing with impact tape was resulting in several hits right in the middle of the clubface! I don’t know what TourEdge is doing to their drivers, but this unit seemed to be impossible to slice or hook – every good swing resulted in a dead straight ballflight.

Touredge Bazooka Sole

Conclusion This is a driver for the masses. Straight, long, and immensely easy to hit, with little vibration transmitted back to your hands. Many people who commented about the different feeling at impact were not used to carbon fiber composite drivers. The feeling and sound is quite different at impact than all-titanium models, but I like it more. Some players who wish to work the ball left/right may be disappointed by the lack of workability this club offers, but most every other player will be very pleased with the ability to get on a teebox, line up your shot, and put a good swing to the ball – you will be pleasantly rewarded with straight, piercing shots time after time. TourEdge’s website indicates that the company’s first claim to fame was the “Bazooka” lineup of titanium drivers, and this one doesn’t disappoint, and should continue the legacy.

6 thoughts on “TourEdge Bazooka JMax 460cc Carbon Driver Review”

I’m always shocked at how a company like Tour Edge can come up with such a superb line as the Exotics (the fairway may be the best on the market) and still dumb itself down to produce a hokey line like the Bazooka. I mean a PW hybrid?? Tour Edge needs to split itself into 2 companies, because the Jmax line is holding back their growth.

Have the Jmax Baxooka Titanium and love it. My friends have the more expensive drivers (cleveland launcher, taylor made r’s)and the tour edge performs as well if not better – at half the price – they use great materials, fujikura shafts and spend almost no money on advertising – the result – quality clubs at half the price – I laugh all the way to the 19th hole where I collect my winnings!!

…. I got one in the bag .. it’s a 10 degree with the draw bias …

I pulled the original Fuji shaft out (which was a FUJIKURA REACTIVE FLEX R 45″ 61g MID 4.0) and dropped in the Fuji Vista Pro 50 R 45″ 55g Low Kick …. hey, 15 yards is 15 yards – right..?

Great club for the money! I own 2. A 9.5 Carbon and 12. I would put both of them up against my Callaway X460 11 degree driver. It has a great feel, look and distance for an underrated driver.

JMax 460 9 degree Carbon Driver outperforms the various other drivers I have played (Titleist, Hogan, Macgregor). Good feel on impact and 460cc size is forgiving. The stock shaft performs reasonably well, but I replaced it with my best spare shaft, Speeder 757 for a bit lower ball flight. A great value.

Have played jmax’s fairways 4 years.love them New driver,fairways,hybrids are beautiful!will try for sure.Thanks4reviews..

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Tour Edge Bazooka JMax QL Hybrid Review

Published: 20 June 2007 Last updated: 26 November 2015

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We can see what Tour Edge has done with this golf club, but we’re not sure it makes the game any more fun. Basically, it’s an iron with a rescue body welded to the back to make it more forgiving.

The shaft is about two inches shorter than most, which adds confidence, but our fear is that for every golfer who loves the design there will be eight or nine who hate it. A tricky one to call, but we reckon a standard set of irons and a couple of rescues in place of the 3 and 4-iron are more effective.

The large steel clubhead and 120g sole make hitting shots easier. Lofts: 16°-60° Left-handed: Yes

Contact: 001 630 584 4777 Web: www.touredge.com

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Yeah, I'm easy. Easy to hit, and even easier to look at. The Bazooka JMAX Tour Iron-Wood gives you the performance of today's hybrids without the distraction of an oversized head. This utility iron features a thin top-line, minimal-offset hosel, and a clean, classic look that delivers a higher level of performance than traditional long irons or high-lofted fairway woods.

Here's the skinny: Hit it higher; hit it longer. Hit it straighter without sacrificing traditional looks. Bridging the gap between distance and control, the JMAX Tour Iron-Wood will make your long iron play more consistent than ever. The Tour's design incorporates a super heavy sole that delivers a higher trajectory, greater carry, and less spin for maximum distance.

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I picked up the 19* somewhat recently for like 120$ and I love it off the tee and the fairway :tongue: At adress it really looks like an iron which I like. It has an iron basically with a back on it.

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surprisingly not as bad as i would have thought from first glance..my head pro actually plays the equivalent of the 2 iron..and it made me give it a second look..not bad..props to bazooka

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Trying out the 22 degree this weekend. Club looks solid. $50 brand new never been hit, hope I like it. Review soon.

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The Tour Edge Tour head is sweet. I absolutely luv it, very versatile...off the tee and off the deck, it is killer.

I think that anyone look at the TM TP or Nickent 3DX should seriously look at this club, they will see similar yardages and ballflight shape & trajectory for a lower price.

I love the club and I think any serious golfer looking for a great club that will perform will look at the Tour Edge...

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Hey guys....

First of all I love the way this club looks. I have never hit one of these bad boys but was just wondering how it feels, ball flight, and quality. I saw the price tag of $70.00 new and was a little shocked by that. Really surprised me to find a hybrid priced so low. Also makes me nervous to buy one and that is the reason why I wanted to pick your brains for some advice. By the way I'm looking for one in either 21* or 19*. Thanks fellas

When I was making the move from 2 iron to hybrid I must have looked at about 10 different clubs. Apart from maybe the Taylor Made Rescue dual TP (couldn't justify the price) the JMAX Tour-Iron wood was the best by a long way. It gives me the powerful flight I want off the tee (whereas other clubs tend to balloon the ball a bit) and I can pick it off tight lies and from the rough with ease. I managed to find the right shaft which is important but all in all I couldn't be happier with this club.

I'd recommend it to anyone looking for a 2 iron type club with hybrid ease.

I picked up the 2 19* w/ an NV 85 Hybrid shaft in it for $119 (retail price). I've hit the non-tour version and loved it. haven't hit this yet, how does it compare feel-wise? I have an adams A2 w/ same shaft in 20* that is currently in the bag. setting up, it seems like you can really chase this club off the deck and work the ball a little.

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I have been playing these hybrid ironwoods for the past 3 years. Just no comparison to the high end stuff that sits patiently in my garage that I use to play with. I play 4 or 5 times a week, and they are tops as far as absorbing the wear, and tear of practice, and play. Their customer service is as user friendly as any other company out there. I once broke my PW (car door), and when I called to buy, and replace it, the rep said no problem, and sent me a new one free, with no S/H charges. All I did was supply him with my specs for the club. Patch

By way of follow up, I played with the club four times and practiced with it a few more. While the club felt good when struck, I prefer more of a non-offset club and one that doesn't look like a long iron. Unlike the non-tour version, this one looks like a slightly offset long iron and that didn't give me much confidence. I traded it in on a Nickent 3DX DC with the stock UST shaft and have preferred the setup and ball striking. The Adams A2 are still in close second and remain in my back up set.

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i use the tour edge hybrids.....i bought them recently, but got the exotics version. Absolutely the best hybrids I have ever hit. I have used the hogan's, the mizuno clk's, titleist, and callaway. The tour edge will stay in my bag for some time now.

The exotics feature a very clean set up, and a very solid ball strike, and feel. You wont be sorry if you give these guys a try (Love my tour edge exotics driver as well)

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I'm reviewing the non tour version of the Tour Edge Iron Wood. I bought the Jmax progressive iron set for my dad. The 3 and 4 from the set are Iron Woods with graphite shafts. They look different from conventional hybrids-- an iron with a bulge on the back with noticeable offset. I hit them, and my shots were low and very short in distance. I have a difficult time adjusting my swing to these clubs. But my dad hits the Iron Woods very well. His hits have a low boring trajectory, and good distance. He's a beginning golfer and he finds these very easy to hit. For me, I could not adapt to the appearance at address. But judging from my dad's shots, these clubs work. A great bargain.

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I have a Bazooka Jmax iron-wood E 21 degree club in my bag....what iron would this replace? a 4 iron?  thanks H

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By shuguley , February 15, 2014 in Regent Seven Seas Cruises

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Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.

Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?

My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

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If you are considering this on the 2015 June Baltic cruise on Voyager; my suggestion is don't. There is so much to do in St. Petersburg and although a train is one of my favorite ways to travel the time would be far better spent in St. P.

Thanks for the advice. Yes, this would be on the Voyager during the 2015 season but not yet sure exactly which cruise.

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We did the Moscow excursion "on a different luxury line", but from your brief description it sounds very much like the same trip, so I will operate on that assumption. It is a VERY long day! We left the ship at 5:30 AM and returned at 12:30 AM. The highspeed train trip is comfortable, and while they call it "Business Class" it does not compare well to the equivalent class on say Rail Europe. When we did it in 2011, we did have highspeed both ways, and the trip back seemed much longer as the adrenaline and excitement had worn off!:D

Moscow itself is not that terribly different from any other big city in the world, but this Cold War kid never thought he would ever stand in Red Square, never mind walk the grounds of The Kremlin, or tour The Kremlin Palace, or see (but not visit) Lenin's Tomb, or visit The Armoury. But he did, and he loved every minute of it! Yes, it is a long day, and you barely scratch a scratch on the surface, but it is worth it. There is a tremendous amount to see in St. Petersburg, but every Baltic cruise goes to St. Petersburg, so you can go back if you choose to. Not every cruiseline offers you the chance to see Moscow.

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I have not personally done this tour, but our last time in St Petersburg, the private guide that we hired for a day was leading the regent tour to Moscow on the high speed train the next day. He said it was way better than the previous alternative, which was flying to Moscow and back. He said that you actually got to Moscow faster because you didn't have to deal with airline checkin etc. it did seem like a very long day to me, and there is so much to see and do in st. Petersburg that I didn't consider doing it.

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We toured to Moscow from St. Petersburg via the hi-speed SAPSAN train last September, from a Baltic cruise on the Oceania Marina. You need to have a two-night, three day port call in St. Petersburg to take this tour because the tour typically leaves the ship around 5:00 - 5:30 AM and doesn't return until after midnight the next day. We didn't take the ship's tour; we made private arrangements with TravelAllRussia for three days of touring, the first and third days in St. Petersburg and the second day the tour to Moscow by train. Our cost for the private tour for three days was about the same as what the ship charged for the excursion to Moscow alone. There are a number of private tour agencies that operate in St. Petersburg and offer the Moscow train tours; we would strongly recommend them over the ship's tours.

All three days had private guides with car and driver. The second day, the driver picked us up at the ship and took us to the train, but we were alone on the train, and met in Moscow by the guide on the station platform. After our tour and dinner, we were brought back to the train and after the return train trip met by the driver and taken back to the ship. Because you are alone on the train you must have your own Russian visas.

If this is your first visit to St. Petersburg, I would agree there is much more to see there. We found Moscow somewhat a disappointment, particularly Red Square. The Kremlin and the cathedral in Red Square were also worth seeing. But the best thing we saw was the Moscow subway! I worked for the Washington Metro system back in the 1980s as it grew from 40 to 80 miles and although I was in the computer area, I learned a lot about the challenges of running a subway system. We used the Moscow system to get across the city from where we had dinner to the train station, and I was amazed at the cleanliness', speed of operation, the short headways maintained, and the courtesy of everyone involved. A very impressive experience!

We had been to St. Petersburg before, and so had the time to take a day and go to Moscow. Also, I really like trains, and the SAPSAN is a German train set running on Russian rails. Seats are like first class domestic air, spacious but not too plush or comfortable, but with enough room. Not too much recline, and almost 8 hours on the train in two shots is a lot for an old man. They come through and sell drinks, candy, etc. but the sellers don't speak English and no one around us helped, so we had just poor coffee once coming, and brought stuff with us for the trip back. Not too much to see from the train either, particularly on the return when it is night the whole way.

If you decide to go, take a private tour and avoid the overly expensive ship's tour. I'm glad we did it, but wouldn't bother to repeat the tour; we've seen Moscow.

Thanks so much to all of you for the thorough and thought insight. Yhe information you have provided is most helpful.

countflorida: Your detailed post is very helpful. We are not quite ready for a Baltic cruise but should do so within a year. Time enough to do our pre travel research, bookings and visa gathering.:) Thank you!

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Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.   Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?   My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

I did this on Seabourn. IMO DONT. Take Aeroflop (er Aeroflot). The train has non folding seats where you are literally knee to knee with your fellow passenger (facing each other). Further they don't believe in air conditioning. It's also the worlds slowed bullet train. I think I would have found more enjoyment wandering around the St. Petersburg and Moscow airports.

Countflorida,

This is a little off topic,, however we had planned a river cruise in Russia but decided we would rather stay on land and have booked about two weeks with Travel-All-Russia using the private guide and driver. I'm curious as to how you found them as a tour company.

The guides they provided were fine. We had a different guide each of the days in St. Petersburg, but both were flexible, pleasant, knowledgeable and spoke English very well, as did the guide in Moscow, incidentally. She was a bit aloof, distant, not too friendly, but otherwise fine. In fact, she was the one who suggested taking the Metro, which unexpectedly became one of the highlights of the Moscow excursion. If I have a complaint with AllTravelRussia, it is with their plan and its execution (more later).

I had requested emphasis on World War II (in Russia, the Great Patriotic War) sites and info. In scheduling us, they weren't careful about dates and a couple of the sites we wanted to see were scheduled on the third day, after we'd been to Moscow. But both sites were closed that day of the week, and that info was readily available, right on web sites describing them. Also, the included meals (lunches in St. Pete, dinner in Moscow) were not what we asked for: light meals with some choices, so we could avoid things we didn't like and choose things we did like. My request was ignored; we were given full Russian meals with a fixed menu, no choice. On the first day, a fish dish was the entre, but I am allergic to fish. Fortunately, I had the e-mail I'd sent with me and showed it to the guide, and she was able to change my entre to chicken, which was very good actually. But we didn't want a 3-4 course lunches or dinner (in Moscow). We had the guide drop the lunch the third day, although we never got any credit or refund. But, particularly in contrast to the ship's tours, the prices were so reasonable we didn't worry too much about it.

The people who were on the ship's tour to Moscow saw us boarding the same train for which they were forced to queue up and wait on the way back, and asked us what we had done. I was candid and open so they were not happy when I explained what we had arranged and particularly what it had cost. Also, when we returned to the ship, we found they had laid on a late supper for those who had gone to Moscow, so up we went and had something. Well, it turns out the late supper was supposed to be just for those on the ship's tour, but we and others on 'independent' tours, there were a dozen or more of us, crashed the party, actually got there first, and they didn't realize it until the larger group arrived and there weren't enough tables/places set. By that time, the 'independents' had all gotten served and were eating; what could they do?

A couple from the larger group sat down with us and asked us about our tour, and they were the ones I told about our arrangement and its cost. They turned to others who’d been with them and announced the details, loudly enough so the whole room heard, which started a lot of bitching and complaining. I gathered they weren't very happy with the ship's tour to begin with, and this was the straw that broke the camel's back. We finished up and beat it out of there, but overheard later that one of the excursion staff came to check on something and ran into a real mess. I caught a cold on the trip, which forced me to bed the second day following in Tallinn, so by the time we reappeared we heard about the contretemps' but apparently no one recalled who started it, thankfully.

Because of what happened to us, I would probably not use AllTravelRussia if I were to go again, or if I did, I would be sure to get confirmation of every detail of the tour. They do have good reviews generally, and we were certainly helped by their visa department and liked the guides and drivers. Their weakness, I say now with full 20:20 hindsight, is that once the sales person who plans the tour, sells it to you and collects your money, he (or she) transfers the plan to their Russia office for implementation; there is no follow-up to make sure it gets done right. And that is where our problems arose; we paid for a custom tour but got a standard package with a few destinations switched, and no one checked them out, even to see when they were open the day we were scheduled to go. If you check every detail that’s important to you, it should be OK, but that’s a hell of a way to have to do business, in my opinion.

Thank you for the 20/20 hindsight observation on your Russian tour operator, and better priced than the ship's excursion cost.

Thanks very much for the feedback.

We had the same experience as you so far as price. We originally booked a Viking Cruise but, hearing some things about the river cruises that made us unhappy, looked into other options. T-A-R cost the same or less than a cruise and had us in hotels for 11 days. We opted for the private tour. They have three tour levels, based on hotels. We originally opted for the four star as it did not cost much more than the three star hotels. Finally we decided to throw it all in and upgraded to five star. In Moscow we will be at the newly opened Kempinsky which is two blocks from Red Square. In St. Petersburg it is the Grand Hotel Europe, one of the most vaunted luxury hotels in Russia. Location is important for us as the tours use up only part of the day so being in the center of everything for our independent touring is important. As with many other cities, the less you pay, the farther out of the center of town you are.

We have been working with our salesman in D.C. and he seems to get back to us with the changes we want. He recently returned from Russia so is up on everything. When I asked they said they paid the full TA commission if I wanted so I got my usual TA on board so he is watching our back and giving us that extra level of comfort. He also set up our air, which I know pays him little or nothing, and got us business class for much less than T-A-R wanted for economy, though it took working for a while with a consolidator. He's happy to get his 10 percent on this trip without having booked it. He also took care of the trip insurance. We've been doing a lot of research on the CC sister site Trip Advisor and will write a report there. We will, I guess, become a source of info for CC members after having spent 5 days in Moscow and 6 in SP.

  • 4 months later...

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scubacruiserx2

Anybody considering a day trip to Moscow from St. Petersburg on the Sapsan may want to look at our travelogue filled with pictures.

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1927687

greygypsy

Very informative. Thanks dor sharing. Jeff

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Tank ride & bazooka Moscow

Only in Russia!

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Starts at 9am

Duration: 1 day

Tour available in

Want to ride a tank? Of course you do.

Welcome to Russia, where everything and anything is possible—especially riding on a tank, shooting an AK-47 and a bazooka, all while drinking vodka.

At Put-in tours, we have put together the ultimate excursion for men (and their girlfriends). Join us in our Soviet van for an entire afternoon of all-inclusive Russian fun on the battlefield!

Start by visiting Park Patriot, the impressive Russian army exhibition center and museum. There, try your driving skills at the T-80 tank official simulator ,  before you ride on two iconic Soviet armored vehicles (BMP-1 and/or BTR-80) on an off-road training path. Along the way, hone your skills while a drill sergeant shouts commands at you. You may not understand, but impress him anyway with your grenade launching technique and AK-47 assembling speed. Or suffer the consequences.

After that, take another shot of vodka , enjoy the army field lunch provided, and move on to the next activity…

Tank & Shooting Excursion

Honey, I shot a bazooka!

Phase two brings a variety of iconic Russian war weapons to the tip of your trigger finger. Learn about and test the Makarov PM, PPSH-41, Kalashnikov AK-47, RPK, DP28 machine gun, several semi-auto or auto carbines and more… Firing off a bazooka is the grand finale, sure to leave you breathless—just before you send the photos to your mom.

To prevent you from inadvertently blowing up your best friend or transforming your girlfriend into a strainer, we only use non-lethal (but real!) ammo.

And because you’ll want to keep the good times rolling, we also offer a 10% discount on pub-crawl tickets.

Hotel pick-up (when possible –  please contact us)

Transport in our classic Soviet van

Army field lunch, drinks and vodka

Visit Park Patriot & try the T-80 tank simulator

Ride on a iconic Soviet armoured vehicle: BMP-2

Shoot 10 Soviet rifle rounds and 1 bazooka shell

Adults : 28 100 RUB / passenger

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Please contact us before the tour to make an appointment

No minimum age

Shooting and bazooka are blank for security reasons

Let us know if you have any food allergies or special dietary needs

Don’t wear your best shoes

Join the experience, book your seat now!

* we run this excursion for groups > 5 persons. If you are less then 5 people, please contact us by email to know about availabilities.

Generally, hotel pick-up is possible . Contact us beforehand to make an appointment.

Otherwise, we will pick you up at 9:00 in front of St Basil’s Cathedral , on the red square.

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At Put-in tours, we put you in our classic Soviet vans to go explore Moscow, Saint Petersburg and Russian culture off the beaten path. Discover our Moscow city guided tour, visit Moscow by night, join our banya & Sergiyev Posad excursion, visit and dine in one of Moscow's oldest monastery or even Luzhniki stadium, before you party on our famous pubcrawl! Original and atypical tours : Shoot AK47 and a bazooka after riding on a tank with our tank & bazooka excursion ! Extreme tours: Fly a fighter jet in Moscow onboard a L-29 or L-39 aircraft!

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