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• Page 1 2022 MADONE SL SERVICE MANUAL SUPPLEMENT...

Page 2: Table Of Contents

Page 3: brake lines, page 4: shift cables - mechanical, page 5: t47 bottom bracket (bb), page 6: fork and headset.

• Page 7 2022 Madone SL Service Manual Fork and headset Install the headset Clean the steerer tube using isopropyl alcohol. Assemble the headset to the stem as shown on page 5. Make sure the stem is in its final position Grease both bearings, the crown race and the inside with the required spacers underneath.

Page 8: Isospeed

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Madone SLR seatpost / ISOspeed HELP

After the Roubaix photos of Chloe Hosking’s new Domane it will be interesting to see what happens with Madone/Domane’s top tube ISOspeed. On that bike it appears they removed the adjustment - not clear if that would help with the bolt issue or was done to reduce weight.

I came across this review yesterday:

I don’t know, mine was produced a few months before May 2021 so the story given by Trek to the reviewer doesn’t seem to add up.

It would make more sense if that erroneous “for” was meant to be read as “before” rather than “from”.

Yes! You’re right, I missed it completely. Makes way more sense now.

Thanks for this. Good to know and get confirmation of the known issue. Still no timeline for a replacement frame and seems like they have no idea. Although the Trek warranty is good, starting to regret going with the Madone now.

I am 6’2" just over 200 lbs and had purchased a 2019 Madone in March of 2020. In the first year and a half of ownership I had replaced 4 IsoSpeed bolts and the cover three times. I just received a 2022 Madone SLR frame and within 250 miles the same problem has arisen. Trek has treated me well as a customer however, the shops feel slighted by Trek as they’re not compensated for the labor to swap over parts. Thus, my two LBS refuse to swap my components to another new Madone frame. It’s sad that such a comfortable, good looking bike cannot be used by people who are over 175 lbs. I ride quite often and do know of many others who have had this exact same issue. The 2018 and prior Madone had actual bearings in the frame and starting in 2019 they got rid of that design and now it is just a bolt through the carbon. I really hope those responsible for switching this design over get reprimanded. The fact that Trek has had 4 frame years to address this issue and has not is worrying. I would not be surprised if people have taken legal action and / or a class action lawsuit.

That is pretty standard…it is the consumer’s responsibility to pay for the component swap usually.

You see the new 2023 Madone?

I did see that yesterday! I have a feeling though it will be a little bit of time before available to the public. However, this looks like a step in the right direction.

I know this is an older post, but just for consistency - I’m 5’9 160, strong but not big and I have the same issue now. My bike is 1 52 frame, thought maybe that might be an issue. But my sense is it’s a design flaw and the hole for the bolt can be drilled in wrong much like a bottom bracket. That’s why some replacement frames work and other don’t, If that hole isn’t precise it will never work.

Hi all - the attached is the Retailer Bulletin about this issue, taken from the Madone Owners Facebook group. Note it specifically mentions Loctite 263 or 2701 (high strength).

Thanks Fobundy that’s a great help.

I’ve got the same issue with a SLR purchased 2 months ago. I bough the bike online as my local dealer didn’t have It on stock. This morning I phoned my local Trek dealer about the issue and the tech asked where I bought the bike. When I told him he said that was the issue, online retailers aren’t building the bikes correctly causing issues and that I could pop it in store and for £50 they will grease all the parts that cause the bike to creak. He said it’s a common issue.

Not being quite satisfied as I could grease a bike myself easily I googled and found this thread. I think I’ll phone back the dealer and ask about the service bulletin.

In the mean time I’ve tighter the pivot bolt (I don’t have loctite to hand) and test ride the bike, no noise.

One thing that is playing on my mind, the noise only happens when I pedal seated. Surely this means the iso-speed is moving in this situation and sapping the few watts from each pedal stroke?

Don’t think anyone has replied to this - it’s not creaking that’s the issue, it’s considerable lateral movement of the entire seatpost, And yeah I guess the Isospeed could absorb a few watts depending on technique.

Just to add to this topic: I have a Madone slr7 I bought new in Jan’22 (so I’m assuming it’s a 2021). The isospeed sway and creaking started after about 500km. Contacted the bike shop in Mtl (won’t name but will if asked to) with the service bulletin. They changed the isospeed washers and all. Problem came back quickly after (had to tighten the bolt 2-3 times per 60km ride), plus, the seat mast isn’t centered relative to the frame anymore (so I’m more to the left of the bike when I pedal, my right tigh often brushing the seat-stays) and the dust cover doesn’t clip in anymore. Contacted the shop again and was told that “it is what it is”, which really didn’t sit well with me. Raised a bit of a stink (I’m canadian so that means I stayed calm and polite but was firm… ey) and insisted that they contacted Trek again as I wasn’t about to accept these problems as “normal” on a 12k$ (CND$) bike. Trek ended-up saying they’d replace the whole seat-mast first and then might warranty the frame if that doesn’t fix it. Trek’s service I’m ok with but I do have a bit of a problem with the shop since I have to get firm/insitant with them in order to get them to contact Trek and do the warranty work. I’ll also say that every visit to their shop is a 1200km round-trip for me so that’s another irritant. Will post with more details as the situation progresses or is resolved. edit : messed-up the years

Update: they replaced my seat-mast. Good news: I’m not off-center anymore. Turns out I was right: there were washers missing the first time around and now they’re present. Felt weird at firts (rode over 1300km off-center) but now it’s definitely more comfortable. The dust-cap also stays in place now that the seat-post is centered.

Bad news: after two rides the system was loose again. I retightened everything and added some blue loctite. Also contacted the shop again. Hoping to hear soon from Trek. Looks like, if their word’s good, I’ll be looking at a replacement frame.

To be continued…

Thought I’d give you guys a quick update. Trek’s service has been awful. After confirmation that the replacement seat-mast didn’t fix the problem they went completely silent for over 2 months. After contacting the shop 3 times (they weren’t great at replying to me either btw) they finally reached out a couple times to Trek again and, after a while, I had an answer.

Trek’s offered me two options: 1- Get a replacement of the exact same gen6 frame 2- get a replacement gen7 frame.

The “catch” with option #2 (gen7) is that some parts (mostly the cockpit and spacers) aren’t compatible from my gen6 to the new gen7 frame so I’ll have to pay for the parts. They’re offering me 25% off so there’s that.

Since the isospeed system (for me) has been such a pain in the arse (both figuratively and litterally) and service has been so slow and, well, suboptimal, I’ve decided to opt for the Gen7 in order to steer away from the isospeed decoupler system and ensure not potentially having these problems in the future.

Waiting for the frame to come. Will report on how things develop from here.

2023-10-27 UPDATE

Can’t post more than 3 consecutive replies so here we are:

So, one last update for my case. In the end, Trek ended-up covering the cost of the non-compatible parts for the Gen7 so the whole frame-swap was without charge to me, which was damn cool of them.

Didn’t take too long for the frame to come but there were some spacers missing, which delayed the process by two weeks after I dropped the bike off at the shop. I definitely want to lower the cockpit once I’m comfortable enough but the missing spacers meant that I would’ve to drop the cockpit by more than 1.5 cm which was too much for me to get used to at the same time as a new cockpit (narrower and flared) so it was a no-go all at once.

I’m stoked on the new bike and extremely relieved that my isospeed problems are over. It must have been quite frustrating to go through this a few years ago and have no other choice than to get the same frame one more time and hope that the problems don’t occur again (which, by reading around, seemed to have re-occured quite frequently for many riders).

All in all, it was long and frustrating but at least it’s over. I have a few accessories that won’t fit the new frame/cockpit (the Garmin mount being the most expensive to replace as, as far as I know, only k-edge makes one for the Gen7 and they’re pricey, even Trek didn’t include one with the frame) but that’s it.

Wishing all the other Madone Gen6 users with isospeed troubles the same resolution as me (but maybe faster).

THanks for sharing. Have been dealing with same problem now for a while and the shop finally agreed to make a warranty claim. Lets see if I get similar offer. Tired of this recurring issue…

Good looking rig.

I know what you mean. Best of luck. From my experience, there comes a point where you have to be firm with the shop and follow-up closely. I wonder what the numbers are for this problem during the lifecycle of the gen6 madone. It must be quite high. Quite a design failure I’m sure if you compare to any other aero bike model without that system…

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New Trek Madone: adjustable IsoSpeed plus disc brake options

Trek has announced a hugely updated Madone road bike with adjustable IsoSpeed, a new geometry and disc brake models. The rim brake version is lighter while the disc brake version has no aerodynamic penalty, according to Trek.

Trek has been busy with this one! What it certainly hasn’t done is just slap some disc brakes onto the existing Madone. Trek says, “What really sets the Madone apart is how it combines advanced aerodynamics, superior ride quality and ultra-light weight into the best race bike available today.”

It would say that, of course.

The new Madone will be available in top-end SLR models and in a slightly more accessible SL version.

Let’s go through the design features in turn.

Adjustable top tube Isospeed

Trek first brought in IsoSpeed on the Domane a few years ago and added it to the last incarnation of the Madone. 

In short, IsoSpeed is a design that “maintains the diamond-shaped frameset geometry but ‘decouples’ the seat tube from the top tube, allowing the seat tube to flex with the forces of the road” (Trek’s words). The idea is that it smooths the ride, adding comfort and reducing fatigue.

This time around Trek has brought in a what it calls Adjustable Compliance Technology. Adjustable IsoSpeed was first released on the seat tube of Trek’s Domane. The drawing  below is from Trek's white paper on the new Madone.

“The Madone Adjustable Compliance Technology [comprises] two frame elements integrated into each other just like the Domane SLR, but has been rotated into the top tube for aerodynamic advantage,” says Trek.

How does it work?

“The two frame elements are connected by the IsoSpeed decoupler and the bolted joint at the front,” says Trek. “In between the two frame elements is a vacant space with an adjustment slider that can move along the entire path. The seatmast element utilises the IsoSpeed decoupler to transfer the aft deflection of the upper aero section of the seatmast to an upward deflection of the lower seatmast element. 

“The vacant space allows the lower seatmast to deflect in the upward direction while the main frame top tube element remains independent from the lower seatmast. The slider contacts both the lower seatmast element and main frame top tube element to limit the upward deflection of the lower seatmast per the rider’s preference. 

“If the slider is towards the front of the frame, a rider will experience more compliance because of the greater vacant space that allows the lower seatmast to deflect more. If the slider is near the back of the frame towards the IsoSpeed Decoupler, a rider will experience less compliance because the slider is inhibiting deflection in the vacant space in front of it.”

Trek reports that the compliance (the amount of force required to induce movement) at the saddle of a 56cm frame ranges from approximately 119N/mm to 175N/mm depending on the slider’s position. The 9 Series Madone had a stiffness of approximately 144N/mm. According to these figures, the new Madone is capable of both more compliance (+17%) and less compliance (-22%) than its predecessor. You have to have some good statistics to support any bike launch these days!

Trek says that a further benefit of this new design is the ability to match the vertical compliance closely across all frame sizes because the removable seat-mast element is nearly the same length across the board. Usually, a larger frame will have more compliance. 

The new SLR version of the Madone features a damper to help control rebound of the seatmast. In other words, the speed at which the seat tube returns to its usual position after flexing is now regulated, the idea being to keep the ride feeling smoother and more stable. 

The damper is made up of three parts: an elastomer damper, a housing for that damper, and the frame carriage. The damper is pre-loaded in compression by a set screw against the seatmast.

“When the seatmast element is loaded during an impact event at the saddle, it creates counter clockwise rotation when viewed from the perspective of the driveside of the bike,” says Trek. “This motion unloads the damper slightly and prepares it for the rebound event. As the seatmast begins to rotate back, the damper is re-loaded, thus slowing the motion and absorbing the rebound energy.”

Trek says that these changes “add up to a significant reduction in the vibration of the cyclist’s body: the end goal of any suspension technology” and that the new Madone offers anywhere from a 44-61% increase in the damping ratio (how rapidly the motion of the saddle and rider reduce back to normal following a large bump).

If you want more details on the effects of the Madone’s Adjustable Compliance Technology, check out Trek’s new Madone SLR white paper. There’s a lot of tech in there. I don’t have a link at the time of writing but I imagine it’s just a Google search away by the time you get to read it.

Aerodynamics

Trek says that it has focused massively on aerodynamic performance in the development of the new Madone, using both CFD (computational fluid dynamics) software and wind tunnel analysis to arrive at the final design, although that has had to be balanced against the addition of adjustable top tube IsoSpeed, a new geometry, updated components, the addition of disc brakes and the desire to keep the weight low. In other words, Trek hasn’t gone after aerodynamics at all costs.

“[Our] goal for the new Madone was to maintain aerodynamic drag performance of the current Madone (within 30g) across an averaged -12.5° to 12.5° yaw sweep. [We consider] this range to be the most common yaw a rider experiences based on real world data collection studies,” says Trek.

“Experimental results collected at the San Diego Low Speed Wind Tunnel… show an average of 3,216g [of drag] across a -12.5° to 12.5° yaw sweep vs the current [9 Series] Madone at 3,202g, a 14g difference that is within Trek’s project goal and within a wind tunnel’s experimental error band.”

Trek reports that the bikes were tested with two water bottles added and a pedalling mannequin. It says that the new Madone has a lower average drag (across yaw angles from 12.5° to -12.5°) than the Specialized Venge Vias. 

Trek didn’t have access to the new Cannondale SystemSix that we showed you earlier in the week. Cannondale claims that the SystemSix is more aerodynamically efficient than the 9 Series Madone.

Light weight

Whereas aerodynamics pulls a frame design towards narrow tubes, the need for stiffness and light weight pushes it in the opposite direction so there’s always going to be something of a balancing act there. 

“[Our] goals for the new Madone were to maintain aerodynamic performance of the current Madone and reduce or maintain bike weight of the rim brake version, all while adding several new features: adjustable compliance technology, a rebound damper, split bar and stem, and a redesigned aesthetic,” says Trek. “The disc brake bike was assigned a target of 7.5kg with the same features.”

Trek says that it analysed many finite element models in order to shave off weight while maintaining aerodynamic performance. 

“The rim brake bike matches the current Madone (7.1kg/15.7lb), and the all-new disc brake bike weighs in at 7.5kg (16.6lb) depending on paint scheme,” says Trek.

The SLR frames are made from Trek’s OCLV 700 carbon while the SLs are OCLV 500 which, according to Trek, isn’t quite as light or as strong.

New geometry

The 9-Series Madone was available in two different geometries: low and stretched H1 and slightly more upright H2. The new Madone SLR comes in a single geometry called H1.5 which, as you might have guessed, sits between the two.

Frame stack (vertical distance from the centre of the bottom bracket to the top of the head tube), reach (horizontal distance between those two points) and head tube length have all been changed.

The 56cm model, for example, has an effective top tube length of 559.9mm – we might as well call that 560mm – a head tube of 151mm, a stack of 563mm and a reach of 391mm.

“H1.5 hits the sweet spot for a wide range of racers as it balances a traditional aggressive race geometry with a position that more athletes can hold longer with more comfort,” says Trek.

The Madone SL is built to Trek’s H2 geometry.

Most 9 Series Madone models came with a combined aero handlebar and stem but the Madone SLR features a two-piece system – still proprietary – with more stem options (90mm to 130mm lengths, and -7° and -14° angles), additional bar sizes (38cm to 44cm) and +/-5° of bar rotation. 

The Madone SL doesn’t feature this integrated handlebar and stem but instead has a Bontrager Pro stem and Elite Aero handlebar. 

Integration

The position of the centre-pull front brake on the rim brake version of the new Madone has been moved. It now sits at the back of the fork rather than at the front, the idea being to improve the bike’s aerodynamic performance. 

“The all new rim brakes have been redesigned with improved functionality and ease of set up in mind,” says Trek. “The brake arms use independent spring tension adjustment screws to centre the brake pads, allow for precise pad adjustments as brake pads wear, and adjust lever pull force to the desired feel. The spacing screws range allows swapping between rim widths ranging from 23-28.5mm without adjusting the centre wedge.”

Each rim brake has a claimed weight of 152g (in the case of the front brake, that’s with an unpainted cover). They’ll take tyres up to 25mm wide, whereas most road brakes these days have enough clearance for 28s. The disc brake version of the Madone will take 28mm tyres.

A Bontrager Flare RT tail light attaches to the seat mast head. Trek is big on encouraging people to use a tail light even during the day.

The Madone SLR comes in men’s and one women’s specific models. They use the same frame but the women’s version features a different saddle, handlebar width and stem length. All models have a lifetime warranty.

All of the Madone SLRs feature an OCLV 700 frame and an integrated two-piece carbon bar and stem. Here are the models and prices:

• Madone SLR 9 Disc, £10,000, Bontrager Aeolus XXX 6 TLR wheels, Shimano Dura-Ace 9170 drivetrain and hydraulic disc brakes

• Madone SLR 8, £6,750, Bontrager Aeolus Pro 5 TLR wheels, Shimano Dura-Ace 9100 drivetrain, Bontrager integrated rim brakes

• Madone SLR 6 Disc, £5,400, Bontrager Aeolus Comp 5 Disc TLR wheels, Shimano Ultegra 8020 drivetrain and hydraulic disc brakes 

• Madone SLR 6 Disc Women's, £5,400, Bontrager Aeolus Comp 5 Disc TLR wheels, Shimano Ultegra 8020 drivetrain and hydraulic disc brakes 

The SLR models are available in 'premium paint' options for an extra £550.

There’s also a Madone SL 6 in the range that uses Trek’s OCLV 500 carbon fibre which is said to be a little heavier and less stiff then OCLV 700. The Madone SL 6 doesn’t feature Bontrager’s integrated handlebar and stem but instead has a Bontrager Pro stem and Elite Aero handlebar. It comes with Bontrager Aeolus Comp 5 TLR wheels, a Shimano Ultegra 8000 drivetrain and Bontrager integrated brakes and is priced £3,600.

For more info go to  www.trekbikes.com

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One must give TREK credit for producing the best looking and working rim-brake bike on the planet. I was a Spezialized guy till now, but that's history now.

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