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Hornblower Dinner Cruise

Glide around the harbor for a memorable dinner cruise experience. Begin your evening with a welcome glass of champagne, followed by a delicious four-course dinner crafted from local, seasonal ingredients at your private table. After dinner, head to the outdoor deck for music and dancing under the sparkling night sky. Boarding at 7:30 p.m. and depart at 8 p.m. 

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By  Karen

Updated September 16, 2023.

The San Francisco Dinner Cruise

Tips for a magical evening on the bay.

A San Francisco dinner cruise is a super way to enjoy the beautiful sights of San Francisco Bay at night.

As the sun sets, the City glows, and the lights begin to sparkle on the bridges.

What could be better than enjoying a gourmet meal, sipping your drinks, and being treated to San Francisco's best light show? 

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The SF Dinner Cruise

The dinner cruise, actually a dinner/dance cruise, leaves from San Francisco every night.

Guests are served a multi-course dinner while the large yacht sails around San Francisco Bay, past Alcatraz and Sausalito, out under the Golden Gate Bridge (usually), and then under the Bay Bridge as well.

They recommend business attire or above (no jeans) for the cruise; the guests were generally nicely-dressed on our trip.

Getting on the boat...

All the San Francisco dinner cruises leave from Pier 3 on the Embarcadero.

Pier 3 , also known as Hornblower Landing , is right near the Ferry Building and has its own parking lot ($10 parking fee for dinner cruise passengers). 

The dinner cruise leaves at 7:30 pm, but you can start boarding at 7:00. (Winter-time cruises board at 6:30 and sail at 7:00 pm.)

Tables are assigned by City Experiences, so there's no advantage in getting on early. 

Before you embark, there's the photo op outside (an optional $20, which you can purchase on board later, two prints, plus digital versions).

When you enter the boat, the staff checks your tickets and tells you your assigned table number.

For summer cruises, it's still daylight when you board, so the first hour or so you have a clear view of the sights you're sailing past: Alcatraz, Sausalito, and the Golden Gate Bridge.

You'll get to admire both the daylight SF skyline and the twinkling night version during the cruise...nice!

The City Experiences Yachts

All the San Francisco dinner cruises are provided by the City Experiences company. 

City Experiences is a respected company that has been doing bay cruises for decades, in San Francisco and other cities.

They are a first-class operation, and most people really enjoy their dinner cruise.

City Experiences is also the company that runs the ferries out to Alcatraz.

The dinner cruises, and their other bay excursions, depart from Pier 3, and their Alcatraz boats leave from Pier 33. 

First off, we were greeted by our server and given flutes of champagne (unexpected). Our salads were already on our table and we settled in with the sourdough bread and butter to study the menu choices.

The menu changes frequently, but there are four choices of entrees, plus two soup and two dessert choices. You can also add on a couple of appetizers (for an extra fee). The food was delicious and the atmosphere was elegant.

The waves were kind of rough the night we went, and the boat was rocking a bit in port, to the extent we started to worry about seasickness! Fortunately, once we were underway, the rocking died down and we could enjoy eating;-)

The Dancing

During dinner, a pianist was playing soft jazz, but after dinner a DJ set up on the dance floor and was playing a collection of good dance music, with selections from the 60's, 70's, and 80's music, and later.

But we were a quiet bunch that night and he couldn't get anyone out on the dance floor! From what I've read on Yelp and other reviews, it's usually a livelier crowd. I think the DJ was a little frustrated with us.

Friday and Saturday nights there's a live band (and probably livelier dance action!).

The views are the best part, in my opinion. San Francisco Bay is so beautiful, it never disappoints.

Seeing the sun setting beyond the Golden Gate, getting a look at Alcatraz, and sailing under the bridges is amazing.

We sailed under the eastern span of the Bay Bridge as the sun was going down, which gave the bridge a gorgeous golden glow.

It was still light enough to get a good look at Yerba Buena Island as we went by.

The Coast Guard maintains a post there with housing for it's members;  there are red-roofed buildings scattered here and there on the steep hillsides:  a cool place to live!

The small number of private citizens living on the island were evicted in 2015 to make way for hotel and condo developments, but nothing appears to be happening in that department.

This was a joint development plan with nearby Treasure Island; the flat island next door has had serious problems cleaning up the radioactive waste left by the Navy base that used to be there.

Tip: after dinner is a good time to get out on deck and admire some of the best city and bridge views after dark.

You can walk along the sides of the yacht and to the front where the views are super.

It is usually pretty chilly and windy after dark, even in summer, so wrap up!

The cruise route varies somewhat based on the weather and water conditions.

The typical route: about 75% of the time (they told me), the ship sails around the bay, passing Alcatraz and Angel Island, then goes out under the Golden Gate Bridge. 

Next, it sails past the city skyline, and goes under the western span of the Bay Bridge, past Yerba Buena Island, down to AT&T park, then circles back and returns to Pier 3.

Something cool: if there's a baseball game at AT&T Park, the boat will stop in McCovey Cove near the stadium for a bit, so you can watch them play.

McCovey Cove is the turn-around point for the cruise.

Each night, the captain checks with the harbor master before the cruise about the currents and wave conditions.

If the sea is too rough, they follow Plan B.

The night we went, they did Plan B: no trip out under the Golden Gate.

But we got the treat of sailing under the eastern span of the Bay Bridge (the one closest to Oakland). 

On our trip, we sailed around the bay, past Alcatraz and Angel Island, then went under the eastern span of the Bay Bridge (beautiful), past Yerba Buena Island, then down the bay to the turn-around point near AT&T Park.

We returned sailing past the city all lit up and under the western span of the Bay Bridge (the lit-up portion).

Bay Bridge Light Show

The Bay Bridge has its own light show, created in 2013 by artist Leo Vilareal to celebrate the 75th anniversary of the Bay Bridge.

You get a good look at it during the dinner cruise, especially when you go underneath it on the way back to the pier.

The work is called the Bay Lights.   It just got upgraded in September 2023 with double the number of lights.

Now, around 50,000 LED lights are attached to both sides of the western span of the bridge, and they blink in random patterns generated by a computer (they say the pattern never repeats).

It's a beautiful addition to an already beautiful bridge.

See Bay Bridge Light show for more info.

Booking a Dinner Cruise

The dinner cruise in San Francisco sails Wednesday through Sunday; the main difference is the Friday and Saturday night cruises are 3 hours, and the other days are 2.5 hours.

The window tables are better, no question, although the large windows in the dining area give you good visibility from all the tables.

We went on a Thursday night in summer and were assigned a window table because there weren't that many people on the boat that night.

Tip: you can reserve a window table when you book the cruise .

Now that I've been on the cruise, I would reserve a window table just in case; cozier, more romantic and the view is better.

They also have some fun add-ons at checkout: a "romance package" with champagne, flowers, chocolate and more, plus a couple of other upgrades. 

Prices: Tickets start at $140 per person; more on Friday and Saturday nights. Sometimes discounted to $112.

To check availability and book the cruise , see Dinner Cruise . 

Getting to Pier 3

Public transportation.

BART: Pier 3 is only a short walk from the Ferry Building, so coming in on BART (get off at Embarcadero Station) puts you very close to Hornblower Landing.

Head towards the Ferry Building, then turn left.

From  Fisherman's Wharf: the  F-Line street car  that runs through Fisherman's Wharf stops near Pier 3 at Washington Street. See map of F-Line .

From Union Square: walk down Powell Street to Market Street. You can catch the F-line trolley on Market Street. Get off at Washington Street and walk back a little to Pier 3.

City Experiences has a convenient parking lot on Pier 3 . For guests on the dinner cruises, there is a flat fee of $10.

It's a safe place to park, since the lot has attendants present during the cruises. They don't do reservations, though.

It's unlikely to be full in the evening, but if that occurs, there are many other garages and lots in the area.

See my page on Embarcadero parking for a list, and descriptions of the best choices.

The Champagne Brunch Cruise

City Experiences also does a popular, weekend brunch cruise, with a lavish buffet and unlimited champagne and mimosas ;-)

They sail around the bay for two hours, past Alcatraz, Angel Island and Sausalito, and out under the Golden Gate Bridge.

This is a highly-rated cruise; looks like fun.  For more information, and booking , see Champagne Brunch Cruise .

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• Dining style Casual Elegant
• Price $50 and over
• Cuisines Californian
• Hours of operation Daily 8:00 am–6:00 pm
• Phone number (415) 788-8866 ext. 7
• Website http://www.hornblower.com/
• Payment options AMEX, Carte Blanche, Diners Club, Discover, JCB, Mastercard, Visa
• Dress code Smart Casual
• Catering Hornblower is a full-service, in-house catering company. All meals are prepared freshly on board. We offer a variety of dining cruises.
• Private party facilities Our eight uniquely different luxury yachts can accommodate group sizes of 2 - 2,200. With 30 years of experience, we have the knowledge and creative ability to continually make memorable events. Aboard our yachts, guests not only enjoy the gourmet food, but get to feast their eyes on the many views.
• Private party contact Taffeta Burr-Lewis: (415) 438-8300
• Location Hornblower Landing at Pier 3, San Francisco, CA 94111
• Neighborhood Financial District / Embarcadero
• Cross street Washington and Embarcadero
• Parking details Limited on site public parking at Hornblower Landing is available for $10. Nearby metered parking and public parking garages and lots are also available. <br /><br />*Hornblower Cruises and Events is not responsible for the metered parking lots. <br />*Please allow adequate time for parking and traffic. Boats are not held for late passengers.
• Public transit Historic Street Car: F Line (Will drop you off on Washington St., Half block away). <br />Bus: #12, #1, and #41. <br />BART & MUNI: Embarcadero Station (8 Minute Walk to/from Hornblower Landing at Pier 3).<br />Ferries: Tiburon & Vallejo, Sausalito, Larkspur, Alameda/Oakland, Harbor Bay Island (drop you off at the Ferry Building, one block away)
• Entertainment Dinner Dance- Live Band for Listening or dancing Brunch- Soloist or duo for listening
• Additional Banquet, Beer, BYO Wine, Corkage Fee, Dancing, Entertainment, Full Bar, Private Room, View, Weekend Brunch, Wheelchair Access, Wine

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The time has finally come for you to head out on a cruise and you couldn’t be more excited. But what are you supposed to pack? What to wear on a cruise is going to depend on where you’re going, the cruise line you’ve picked and any shore excursions you have planned.

Let’s take a look at cruise attire, including tips for packing clothes for a cruise.

Some must-bring clothes for a cruise

Casual clothes to wear on the cruise. T-shirts, shorts, pants, tops, whatever you feel comfortable exploring the shore and the ship in.

A jacket or sweater. Being out on the water might be colder than you think. Bring a light jacket or sweater for the nights you might be walking the ship deck or eating outside.

A swimsuit, cover-up, hat and sandals. Most cruises have pools, hot tubs and sometimes even water slides. You wouldn't want to be a fish out of water because you forgot your swimsuit.

Smart casual or formal clothes for dinner. It's not required, but some cruises have specialty restaurants or formal nights where guests dress up for dinner. Check if your cruise has a formal night and bring some clothes for a more dressed up occasion. (It'll also be good for taking portraits, a common offering on cruise formal nights).

Other tips for packing cruise clothes

Look up special theme nights.

Many cruises have special themes for certain nights. It could be as simple as "Dress to Impress" or it might require a more specific dress code.

For example, the Disney Cruise Line offers a pirate night on many of its voyages. As you’d expect, this is a night where everyone dresses as a pirate. Although you’ll get a free bandana to wear, many guests go all out when dressing up — meaning they packed for the occasion.

Virgin Voyages, meanwhile, has a Scarlet Night on all of its sailings. During Scarlet Night, guests go red from head to toe for a huge party.

More traditional cruise lines such as Royal Caribbean also offer a formal night. It’s exactly as it sounds: You’ll want to wear black-tie if you’re heading out to dinner. This can include ball gowns and tuxedos, but doesn’t need to be that fancy; you can also opt for cocktail attire.

Figuring out which cruise line fits your vibe is important and can heavily impact what you choose to pack, so it’s important to do your research before you book.

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Research your itinerary

For best results, you’ll want to take an in-depth look at the itinerary for your ship. If you’re heading out to the Caribbean, you’ll generally want to plan for warm weather. This includes lightweight outfits, like sundresses and shorts.

Forget to pack something? Don’t worry. Many cruise lines offer copious amounts of shopping onboard so you’ll be able to pick up items on the ship.

If you’re stopping at a beach club for the day, bathing suits and coverups are also a good idea. If your ship is stopping at ports, comfortable walking shoes will be a good investment, as will a hat to protect you from the sun.

For cooler destinations like Alaska or Nordic countries, more layers will be important, especially when you get off the ship to explore. Bring rain jackets, sweaters, base layers and waterproof shoes.

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Plan for excursions

While the temperature aboard your cruise ship is regulated, that all goes out the window when you embark on an excursion. These can vary wildly based on where you’re sailing. It could be as casual as a bus ride into the port town or as adventurous as riding an ATV through the jungle.

Whatever excursion you pick, make sure you’re ready for the elements. While you may not need too many additional items of clothing for a beachy excursion, more adventurous ones may need more attention. Hiking shoes, long-sleeved shirts and sunscreen will be important.

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Pack multi-purpose clothes

It probably sounds like you’ll need to bring your entire wardrobe with you for a cruise, but that doesn’t necessarily need to be the case. If you can, select items that can perform double-duty for you. Have a sun hat for the pool? Bring one with a strap on it so you can take it into town without it flying off your head.

This can help you cut down on the number of items you need to pack — and that’s a good thing! Some cruise lines may limit the number of bags you can bring . Plus, staterooms on ships can be pretty small and too much luggage can make the room feel cramped.

Doing laundry on the ship might be an option as well! Check to see if your ship has laundry facilities.

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Perfect for any occasion, this San Diego dinner cruise offers an unforgettable dining experience aboard a luxury yacht. Enjoy gracious hospitality, stunning views of the shimmering waves and San Diego skyline, along with a chef-prepared three-course meal, and live DJ music. Reserve your spot for a memorable dinner cruise in San Diego. up to 3 hrs 1 or more people

Good To Know

• Enjoy a sunset yacht cruise on San Diego Bay for approximately 1.5 hours.
• Enjoy scenic views of the city skyline and iconic landmarks such as the USS Midway, Coronado Bay Bridge, Seaport Village, and more.
• Children ages three (3) and under cruise free! Don’t forget to select a free ticket for them.
• Cruises board approximately 30 minutes prior to scheduled departure time.
• Pay-to-park options are available next to the USS Midway.
• Savor light appetizers and desserts in both indoor and outdoor seating areas.
• Purchase refreshing drinks from the onboard full bar.
• Dance to the live DJ music while enjoying a fun time on the water.

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San Diego Dinner Cruise by City Cruises is located at City Cruises San Diego Harbor • 1800 North Harbor Drive • San Diego , CA 92101

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Frequently Asked Questions about San Diego Dinner Cruise by City Cruises

Where does the cruise depart.

The San Diego Dinner Cruise departs from the Grape Street Pier at Pier 1, Hornblower Landing located at 1800 N Harbor Dr, San Diego, CA 92101. Check in at the ticket booth prior to boarding.

How long is the cruise?

The cruise lasts approximately 3 hours. Boarding time is 30 minutes prior to departure. Please allow time for finding parking and walking to the loading dock.

Are there any age restrictions on the cruises?

There are no age restrictions for their cruises. Children ages 3 and under can join the cruise for free. Please note that all minors require adult supervision.

Is there parking?

City Cruises does not own or operate any parking lots in the area, but pay-to-park options are available nearby, located on Navy Pier, next to the USS Midway.

Is the ship wheelchair accessible?

This cruise offers limited wheelchair accessibility. Access to outer decks is by stairs only and not wheelchair accessible.

What is the dress code for this cruise?

The dress code is cocktail attire, including collared shirts, blouses, sports coats, slacks and dresses. A cozy sweater or warm jacket is recommended.

What should I bring?

Bring your valid photo ID if you are 18 years old and above. If you're planning to have alcoholic drinks, you'll also need your ID to prove you are of drinking age. Take advantage of the sights and photo opportunities during the cruise, so have your smartphone or camera handy.

Is there pre-assigned seating for dinner cruises?

The captain and marine crew will direct you to your deck as you board the yacht. From there the host/hostess will show your party to your assigned table(s). Decks are never guaranteed to non-private groups. Seats are assigned based on needs and capacity for each cruise.

Will I get my own table?

Yes, you will be seated at a private table.

Are there vegetarian options available for dinner cruises? Can I make a special menu request?

Yes, for dining cruises, vegetarian meals are available and can be arranged at the time of booking. They can also accommodate most other special dietary needs with advance notice. Please make a note at time of booking with any special requests, or call the number on your e-ticket prior to your cruise date.

Is smoking allowed?

No, sorry. Smoking is not allowed on any harbor tours.

Can I bring an outside cake on board?

Cakes may be brought on board, however, you will be charged a cake-cutting fee of $1.50- $3.00 per person. Please note that only flameless or LED birthday candles are allowed on board.

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Best of Moscow by high speed train

By shuguley , February 15, 2014 in Regent Seven Seas Cruises

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Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.

Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?

My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

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If you are considering this on the 2015 June Baltic cruise on Voyager; my suggestion is don't. There is so much to do in St. Petersburg and although a train is one of my favorite ways to travel the time would be far better spent in St. P.

Thanks for the advice. Yes, this would be on the Voyager during the 2015 season but not yet sure exactly which cruise.

We did the Moscow excursion "on a different luxury line", but from your brief description it sounds very much like the same trip, so I will operate on that assumption. It is a VERY long day! We left the ship at 5:30 AM and returned at 12:30 AM. The highspeed train trip is comfortable, and while they call it "Business Class" it does not compare well to the equivalent class on say Rail Europe. When we did it in 2011, we did have highspeed both ways, and the trip back seemed much longer as the adrenaline and excitement had worn off!:D

Moscow itself is not that terribly different from any other big city in the world, but this Cold War kid never thought he would ever stand in Red Square, never mind walk the grounds of The Kremlin, or tour The Kremlin Palace, or see (but not visit) Lenin's Tomb, or visit The Armoury. But he did, and he loved every minute of it! Yes, it is a long day, and you barely scratch a scratch on the surface, but it is worth it. There is a tremendous amount to see in St. Petersburg, but every Baltic cruise goes to St. Petersburg, so you can go back if you choose to. Not every cruiseline offers you the chance to see Moscow.

I have not personally done this tour, but our last time in St Petersburg, the private guide that we hired for a day was leading the regent tour to Moscow on the high speed train the next day. He said it was way better than the previous alternative, which was flying to Moscow and back. He said that you actually got to Moscow faster because you didn't have to deal with airline checkin etc. it did seem like a very long day to me, and there is so much to see and do in st. Petersburg that I didn't consider doing it.

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We toured to Moscow from St. Petersburg via the hi-speed SAPSAN train last September, from a Baltic cruise on the Oceania Marina. You need to have a two-night, three day port call in St. Petersburg to take this tour because the tour typically leaves the ship around 5:00 - 5:30 AM and doesn't return until after midnight the next day. We didn't take the ship's tour; we made private arrangements with TravelAllRussia for three days of touring, the first and third days in St. Petersburg and the second day the tour to Moscow by train. Our cost for the private tour for three days was about the same as what the ship charged for the excursion to Moscow alone. There are a number of private tour agencies that operate in St. Petersburg and offer the Moscow train tours; we would strongly recommend them over the ship's tours.

All three days had private guides with car and driver. The second day, the driver picked us up at the ship and took us to the train, but we were alone on the train, and met in Moscow by the guide on the station platform. After our tour and dinner, we were brought back to the train and after the return train trip met by the driver and taken back to the ship. Because you are alone on the train you must have your own Russian visas.

If this is your first visit to St. Petersburg, I would agree there is much more to see there. We found Moscow somewhat a disappointment, particularly Red Square. The Kremlin and the cathedral in Red Square were also worth seeing. But the best thing we saw was the Moscow subway! I worked for the Washington Metro system back in the 1980s as it grew from 40 to 80 miles and although I was in the computer area, I learned a lot about the challenges of running a subway system. We used the Moscow system to get across the city from where we had dinner to the train station, and I was amazed at the cleanliness', speed of operation, the short headways maintained, and the courtesy of everyone involved. A very impressive experience!

We had been to St. Petersburg before, and so had the time to take a day and go to Moscow. Also, I really like trains, and the SAPSAN is a German train set running on Russian rails. Seats are like first class domestic air, spacious but not too plush or comfortable, but with enough room. Not too much recline, and almost 8 hours on the train in two shots is a lot for an old man. They come through and sell drinks, candy, etc. but the sellers don't speak English and no one around us helped, so we had just poor coffee once coming, and brought stuff with us for the trip back. Not too much to see from the train either, particularly on the return when it is night the whole way.

If you decide to go, take a private tour and avoid the overly expensive ship's tour. I'm glad we did it, but wouldn't bother to repeat the tour; we've seen Moscow.

Thanks so much to all of you for the thorough and thought insight. Yhe information you have provided is most helpful.

countflorida: Your detailed post is very helpful. We are not quite ready for a Baltic cruise but should do so within a year. Time enough to do our pre travel research, bookings and visa gathering.:) Thank you!

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Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.   Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?   My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

I did this on Seabourn. IMO DONT. Take Aeroflop (er Aeroflot). The train has non folding seats where you are literally knee to knee with your fellow passenger (facing each other). Further they don't believe in air conditioning. It's also the worlds slowed bullet train. I think I would have found more enjoyment wandering around the St. Petersburg and Moscow airports.

Countflorida,

This is a little off topic,, however we had planned a river cruise in Russia but decided we would rather stay on land and have booked about two weeks with Travel-All-Russia using the private guide and driver. I'm curious as to how you found them as a tour company.

The guides they provided were fine. We had a different guide each of the days in St. Petersburg, but both were flexible, pleasant, knowledgeable and spoke English very well, as did the guide in Moscow, incidentally. She was a bit aloof, distant, not too friendly, but otherwise fine. In fact, she was the one who suggested taking the Metro, which unexpectedly became one of the highlights of the Moscow excursion. If I have a complaint with AllTravelRussia, it is with their plan and its execution (more later).

I had requested emphasis on World War II (in Russia, the Great Patriotic War) sites and info. In scheduling us, they weren't careful about dates and a couple of the sites we wanted to see were scheduled on the third day, after we'd been to Moscow. But both sites were closed that day of the week, and that info was readily available, right on web sites describing them. Also, the included meals (lunches in St. Pete, dinner in Moscow) were not what we asked for: light meals with some choices, so we could avoid things we didn't like and choose things we did like. My request was ignored; we were given full Russian meals with a fixed menu, no choice. On the first day, a fish dish was the entre, but I am allergic to fish. Fortunately, I had the e-mail I'd sent with me and showed it to the guide, and she was able to change my entre to chicken, which was very good actually. But we didn't want a 3-4 course lunches or dinner (in Moscow). We had the guide drop the lunch the third day, although we never got any credit or refund. But, particularly in contrast to the ship's tours, the prices were so reasonable we didn't worry too much about it.

The people who were on the ship's tour to Moscow saw us boarding the same train for which they were forced to queue up and wait on the way back, and asked us what we had done. I was candid and open so they were not happy when I explained what we had arranged and particularly what it had cost. Also, when we returned to the ship, we found they had laid on a late supper for those who had gone to Moscow, so up we went and had something. Well, it turns out the late supper was supposed to be just for those on the ship's tour, but we and others on 'independent' tours, there were a dozen or more of us, crashed the party, actually got there first, and they didn't realize it until the larger group arrived and there weren't enough tables/places set. By that time, the 'independents' had all gotten served and were eating; what could they do?

A couple from the larger group sat down with us and asked us about our tour, and they were the ones I told about our arrangement and its cost. They turned to others who’d been with them and announced the details, loudly enough so the whole room heard, which started a lot of bitching and complaining. I gathered they weren't very happy with the ship's tour to begin with, and this was the straw that broke the camel's back. We finished up and beat it out of there, but overheard later that one of the excursion staff came to check on something and ran into a real mess. I caught a cold on the trip, which forced me to bed the second day following in Tallinn, so by the time we reappeared we heard about the contretemps' but apparently no one recalled who started it, thankfully.

Because of what happened to us, I would probably not use AllTravelRussia if I were to go again, or if I did, I would be sure to get confirmation of every detail of the tour. They do have good reviews generally, and we were certainly helped by their visa department and liked the guides and drivers. Their weakness, I say now with full 20:20 hindsight, is that once the sales person who plans the tour, sells it to you and collects your money, he (or she) transfers the plan to their Russia office for implementation; there is no follow-up to make sure it gets done right. And that is where our problems arose; we paid for a custom tour but got a standard package with a few destinations switched, and no one checked them out, even to see when they were open the day we were scheduled to go. If you check every detail that’s important to you, it should be OK, but that’s a hell of a way to have to do business, in my opinion.

Thank you for the 20/20 hindsight observation on your Russian tour operator, and better priced than the ship's excursion cost.

Thanks very much for the feedback.

We had the same experience as you so far as price. We originally booked a Viking Cruise but, hearing some things about the river cruises that made us unhappy, looked into other options. T-A-R cost the same or less than a cruise and had us in hotels for 11 days. We opted for the private tour. They have three tour levels, based on hotels. We originally opted for the four star as it did not cost much more than the three star hotels. Finally we decided to throw it all in and upgraded to five star. In Moscow we will be at the newly opened Kempinsky which is two blocks from Red Square. In St. Petersburg it is the Grand Hotel Europe, one of the most vaunted luxury hotels in Russia. Location is important for us as the tours use up only part of the day so being in the center of everything for our independent touring is important. As with many other cities, the less you pay, the farther out of the center of town you are.

We have been working with our salesman in D.C. and he seems to get back to us with the changes we want. He recently returned from Russia so is up on everything. When I asked they said they paid the full TA commission if I wanted so I got my usual TA on board so he is watching our back and giving us that extra level of comfort. He also set up our air, which I know pays him little or nothing, and got us business class for much less than T-A-R wanted for economy, though it took working for a while with a consolidator. He's happy to get his 10 percent on this trip without having booked it. He also took care of the trip insurance. We've been doing a lot of research on the CC sister site Trip Advisor and will write a report there. We will, I guess, become a source of info for CC members after having spent 5 days in Moscow and 6 in SP.

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Anybody considering a day trip to Moscow from St. Petersburg on the Sapsan may want to look at our travelogue filled with pictures.

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1927687

Very informative. Thanks dor sharing. Jeff

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